(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[7200]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[U.S. Open - Round 6 - Board 1 - 2009 US Go Congrsss - Kim, Myung-Wan 8p vs Ge, Yongfei 7d]PW[Kim, Myung-Wan]PB[Ge, Yongfei]WR[8p]BR[7d]DT[2009-08-08]EV[U.S. Open]RO[6]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Solomon Smilack]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Hi, USGO.
USGO1 [-\]: Good morning.
USGO1 [-\]:  A video stream of this board is available here: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US 
mcw85 [7k\]: USGO, do you know why Myung-wan didn't compete in the NAIM?
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the American Go E-Journal’s LIVE coverage of the 2009 U.S. Go Congress! Today we’re bringing you the top boards at the U.S. Open, the Congress 6-round main tournament. Check the AGA website at www.usgo.org for Congress and tournament updates, including photos and more. This game is the 2009 U.S. Open, Round 6, Board 1, between Myung-Wan Kim and Yongfei Ge. I'm Solomon Smilack, your game recorder. Enjoy the game!
xedover [5k?\]: he's not Americian, mcw
mcw85 [7k\]: Ahh.
xedover [5k?\]: requires US citizenship
mcw85 [7k\]: Just living in LA?
USGO1 [-\]: The players are setting the clock.
USGO1 [-\]: Current tournament standings can be found here: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72
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;B[dp]
;W[pd]
;B[dc]
;W[pp]
;B[nc]
;W[qf]
;B[kd]C[USGO1 [-\]: The players played briskly up to here.
mcw85 [7k\]: The usualu C14?
USGO1 [-\]: Myung-Wan cracks his knuckles one by one and adjusts his glasses.
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;W[cf]C[studyy: Finally Kim got White
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(;B[ch]
;W[bd]
;B[de]
;W[df]
;B[ce]
;W[be]
;B[cc]
;W[dh]
;B[di]C[avsdvsdv: w tartrate?
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;W[eh]C[gnegne [4k\]: bbw lost to kim yesterday?
mcw85 [7k\]: /sigh
meuns [2k\]: yes
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes, he did.
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;B[bg]
;W[bf]C[meuns [2k\]: kim is a god for the amateurs
KillerMonk [4d\]: bbw is on a tear. 
mcw85 [7k\]: But BBW beat Mingjiu Jiang in the evening to win the NAIM.
KillerMonk [4d\]: Beating three pros consecutively to win the NAIM is incredible
meuns [2k\]: jiang is old
meuns [2k\]: and he doesn't play other pros
mcw85 [7k\]: Is Kim still active in the pro circuits?
meuns [2k\]: so his level decreases
meuns [2k\]: good question ^^
USGO1 [-\]: Sorry, I was distracted at move8 in updating the video feeds.
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;B[dk]C[xedover [5k?\]: they're both sitting on the left? :)
USGO1 [-\]: The board position is correct but I'm unsure on the order (if black9 was at d15 or at c12)
studyy: =_=
evanj [2d\]: ah
evanj [2d\]: presumably d15
USGO1 [-\]:  /sob
xedover [5k?\]: you're awesome, solomon
USGO1 [-\]: tyty
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;W[fe]
;B[gc]
;W[ei]
;B[fq]
;W[cp]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Does b4 fail here? (for white instead of this attachment)
GeorgeW [-\]: B4 is not as good, because if you expect B4, c4, B5, B3, B2, C3, White lacks a proper next move
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;B[co]
;W[bo]C[mcw85 [7k\]: I see. Thanks.
GeorgeW [-\]: White is aiming to attack D11 group because Black tenukied White's E11 turn
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;B[cq]
;W[bp]
;B[do]
;W[bq]
;B[cr]C[mcw85 [7k\]: I was playing against a much stronger opponent and, in a similar situation, I tried b4 and died.
mcw85 [7k\]: Must remember the attachment...
elohimmeth [1d\]: hi
tanoq: depends...
mcw85 [7k\]: Hi.
Tulkas [11k\]: i would like that everyone who talks about tartrate would line up so that i could give them a good beating
evanj [2d\]: well, b4 shouldn't DIE
mcw85 [7k\]: :-(
evanj [2d\]: just be worse for w, in some situations :)
mcw85 [7k\]: He was a dan player, I am kyu, so it should die. :-)
tanoq: itll always depend on surrounding stones etc
tanoq: so you cant really say you would always end up being captured if you play that particular sequence
studyy: Why do they start so early in the morning??
mcw85 [7k\]: I understand.
tanoq: while it is ok to memorize a certain shape - blindy playing it will not help in the end ; ) you need to understand why too 
mcw85 [7k\]: But I never considered the attachment before.
tanoq: ah ok
mcw85 [7k\]: So what I mean is "must remember to consider attachment."
tanoq: ah now i understand - evaluating and contemplating alternatives ; )
tanoq: you do that  :)
mcw85 [7k\]: Indeed, but thanks for the advice. :-)
tanoq: it is nothing
tanoq: :)
Larrave [3k\]: now hes fighting only one face
Larrave [3k\]: XD
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;W[cn]C[USGO1 [-\]: Kim is 5-0 at this stage. Ge is 3-2.
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;B[cl]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: f15 is new?
GoGetta [-\]: YES!! Lets Go kim!!!
xiexieni [4d\]: we can answer that because we diligently study board positions all the time
mcw85 [7k\]: So, answer it! :-P
GoGetta [-\]: Kim really needs some competition why didnt he play someone that is 5-0 too???
USGO1 [-\]: Kim is the only 5-0 player remaining in the top band.
GoGetta [-\]: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72 Am i looking at the wrong results???
USGO1 [-\]: Those are the correct results.
GoGetta [-\]: ?.?
mcw85 [7k\]: Nopee.
mcw85 [7k\]: Unless you're looking for ING results?
GoGetta [-\]: Oh now i understand needed a minute to think about it 
mcw85 [7k\]: Which are here: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
Vash3G [-\]: those are the correct us open resuts directly from the us open director
USGO1 [-\]: It would not be right to pair him against the leader of the ~4d band
mcw85 [7k\]: They are official, Vash.
Vash3G [-\]: yes, i posted them...
GoGetta [-\]: There are different prizes for each band???
USGO1 [-\]: Yes.
mcw85 [7k\]: Oh, sorry. I thought you asked a question. :-P
Vash3G [-\]: yes there are, we do not know the prize structure right now
xedover [5k?\]: whoo hoo... javaness is 5-0 so far
USGO1 [-\]: Top prize for the top band is usually $1500-$2000
Vash3G [-\]: sandbagger
xedover [5k?\]: haha
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;W[bm]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Haha.
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;B[dn]C[mcw85 [7k\]: How is Java winning without intimidating everyone with his badge?
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;W[cm]
;B[dm]
;W[bl]C[snowman [-\]: java for the president
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;B[bk]C[WoolyMaCha [5k\]: We should be proud of Java's performance.
GoGetta [-\]: There probably arent any strong 2ds there =P
Vash3G [-\]: there are many
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes, all the strong 2ds are 3ds or 4ds.
xedover [5k?\]: if there were, then they'd be 3d
mcw85 [7k\]: I'm 7k, but I like to consider myself a strong 10k.
Uberdude [5d?\]: f15 was played by another korean
Tenji [2k\]: AGA ranks right? (AGA=weak)
Uberdude [5d?\]: in egc
Uberdude [5d?\]: i tihnk was skim eunkuk against rob vj
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: is w. the only pro undefeated?
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: yes
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: yey!
xedover [5k?\]: thx, Uberdude... back to the game
GoGetta [-\]: Feng yun was a disappointment
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: lets not bring that up again..xp
mcw85 [7k\]: What does that mean?
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;W[mq]C[GoGetta [-\]: kill!
adwue [4k\]: kill what?
KoReNJe [3d\]: w any good? :p
GoGetta [-\]: nvm 
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;B[qk]C[Tenji [2k\]: no, w is 18k
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;W[qi]
;B[qn]C[CookiesX [17k\]: 8p
mcw85 [7k\]: A strong 18k, though.
Larrave [3k\]: almost strongest 18k
Larrave [3k\]: only 9p is stronger 18k^^
Uberdude [5d?\]: r4 
gosta [3k\]: never seen so many p games on KGS
Tulkas [12k\]: close to 17k
kryft [1k?\]: Will Takemiya be commenting on any games today?
meuns [2k\]: i wish he will ^^
kryft [1k?\]: (And will the comments be relayed here?)
meuns [2k\]: tartrate rules
kryft [1k?\]: Yes, I learned a lot from his comments last night. :) (It was ~3 AM here in Finland.)
TheCount [2d?\]: k3?
mcw85 [7k\]: Wow, Chi-Minh Ok beat Enkuk Kim at the EGC.
USGO1 [-\]: A new demonstration board will be opened when a pro is ready to provide commentary.
meuns [2k\]: rusty !
Tenji [2k\]: kim is korean?
meuns [2k\]: yes
Tulkas [12k\]: rusty is strong
mcw85 [7k\]: Kim is korean.
kryft [1k?\]: USGO1, Great, thanks. Any clues on when we might expect that to happen? :)
mcw85 [7k\]: He went undefeated in the rapid tournament (30 min SD).
Tenji [2k\]: I have only once met a korean not named Kim, and his name was Lim...
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;W[qp]
;B[kq]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: maybe they had a typo :p
mcw85 [7k\]: Haha.
Tenji [2k\]: no
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei wandered to the middle of the room to yawn, then came back and slapped this stone down.
monk316 [1k\]: are you serious?
mcw85 [7k\]: USGO, do all of you guys volunteer to do this? If the congress is ever near me, I would like to volunteer. 8-)
USGO1 [-\]: The E-Journal team is volunteer, yes.
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;W[on]C[USGO4 [-\]: Next year is Colorado Springs, come join.
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;B[ro]
;W[rp]C[Rocker [4d\]: go amateur!  bruise big pro ego!
Uberdude [5d?\]: w has o4 weakness
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;B[pb]C[Rocker [4d\]: uber dude solidify ur rank
USGO1 [-\]: q18 rattles the board - I think the Ing board has warped a little over time
kryft [1k?\]: :)
royalty [3d\]: people shouldn't play games at warp speed
Rocker [4d\]: my feel is b is slightlyahead like by 2.5 
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;W[ok]C[shusaku9p [4k\]: a peacefull game huh
menikmati [4k\]: lol Rocker
gosta [3k\]: w imitating d4 wall?
Rocker [4d\]: s11
shusaku9p [4k\]: p7
Rocker [4d\]: q10
Altair [8k\]: s10
ImNoSensei [-\]: too late, you already said s11 ;)
kryft [1k?\]: Seems like white would want black to play Q10.
amuna [1d\]: r17
kryft [1k?\]: Hmm, surely black can't afford to tenuki?
mcw85 [7k\]: B can't really tenuki here, can here?
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes, that.
Thew [3k\]: p8
Rocker [4d\]: ok s11
ImNoSensei [-\]: I'd be surprised if he did at least
Rocker [4d\]: i stick with my initial feel
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;B[ri]C[MrCactu5 [5k\]: i would like B Q10
Rocker [4d\]: muhahahaha
kryft [1k?\]: Rocker 7 dan.
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;W[rj]
;B[qj]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: what does muh before haha mean?
Rocker [4d\]: s9
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;W[rk]C[ImNoSensei [-\]: haha on its own does not an evil laugh make
Thew [3k\]: muhaha is the evil laugh
kryft [1k?\]: Korenje, It adds evilness
GoGetta [-\]: Muh ahaha the standard evil laugh
zeph [3k\]: Bwahahaa
kryft [1k?\]: Korenje, Bwahaha is a common variation.
Uberdude [5d?\]: bwa a bit more manic?
Rocker [4d\]: atari?
menikmati [4k\]: Bwahaha is more human
KoReNJe [3d\]: both sound geekish
kryft [1k?\]: Uberdude, Hmm, yes, I guess it does have a slightly more manic, perhaps even mad scientist flavor to it.
Argentum [5k?\]: this seems not so simple
Argentum [5k?\]: B is not happy?
Rocker [4d\]: q11- r12 -s8 -s12 -p10 , comon its too obvious
ImNoSensei [-\]: I wonder why B is taking so long on this move
Argentum [5k?\]: is not easy !
USGO1 [-\]: Myung-Wan steps out of the room, comes back for his phone, then steps out again.
rigor [6k\]: id prefer o10 or q10 after w r12
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei is bouncing his leg up and down.
GoGetta [-\]: Cheating??
xiexieni [4d\]: he is going to call Rocker
Meepy [-\]: omg, he's already using his first lifeline?
Thew [3k\]: is eurogo streaming a live vid of this game?
GoGetta [-\]: There probably is spy here to help him
mcw85 [7k\]: He should use poll audience first.
Meepy [-\]: i thought he would ask the audience first
Koreangrl8 [3k\]:               lol@meepy
mollycat [7k\]: isn
squirrels [12k?\]: who is the audience
ZeroPoint [?\]: W may have overplayed here
Onmyoji [2d\]: we are 
mollycat [7k\]: isn't asking the audience like polling the kibitzers?
Argentum [5k?\]: players are allowed to use cellphones while playing?
Genghis [1k\]: How does the audience vote?
mollycat [7k\]: totally useless
squirrels [12k?\]: he doesn't see these posts
Meepy [-\]: i vote for s8
Rocker [4d\]: somebody can kibitz to his phone , seriously
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;B[pi]C[rigor [6k\]: q11
rigor [6k\]: w r12 my vote
GoGetta [-\]: Wow they both left
freddygo [5k\]: r8 possible?
kane955 [4k\]: is there video feed?
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei played and went to get more water.
GoGetta [-\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
mcw85 [7k\]: No ads: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Onmyoji [2d\]: b is insei?
kryft [1k?\]: Hmm, the next version of cgoban should include three lifelines for each game. Call Rocker, ask the kibitzers and 50-50, which points out half of the stupid moves that would occur to the average kyu player in that situation.
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: Rocker, after b  p10 , then b  has a weak point at  r8
GoGetta [-\]: Lol what did you sayto black Usgo1?
meuns [2k\]: rocker !
meuns [2k\]: where is he ?!
evanj [2d\]: i think he was asking about order of moves in UL
Tenji [2k\]: i wish kgs had video support, so i could have everything in the same window
USGO1 [-\]: I've confirmed with with Yongfei that I did indeed get the order wrong at move 8. Black responded to the approach with the shimari at d15. After the white slide to b16 black pincered at c12.
meuns [2k\]: indeed
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: i agree.
Rocker [4d\]: of course wooly , u cant get all good aspects ,  go is about balance
USGO1 [-\]: Sorry - was distracted at the time by updating the video feed.
meuns [2k\]: Budy !
MrCactu5 [5k\]: can you talk to other players during the game?
mcw85 [7k\]: Thanks, USGO.
meuns [2k\]: video in kgs should be fine !
Karcusrd [7k\]: I wish no glare
mollycat [7k\]: go videos aren't exactly scintillating cinema folks
WoolyMaCha [5k\]:  thx Rocker, understood.
Rocker [4d\]: quick!
TophBei [5d\]: why spend time for r12?
Rocker [4d\]: welcome woolu
Rocker [4d\]: y
Rocker [4d\]: i should start my game , and pay 10 games till this is over
Rocker [4d\]: play
meuns [2k\]: lol
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: Rocker, Rock n Roll now !
Karcusrd [7k\]: they have lots of fashion stores in the area
boule [3k\]: do they pause?
rigor [6k\]: im
rigor [6k\]: hmm
amuna [1d\]: w is right
rigor [6k\]: there is nobody sitting
rigor [6k\]: where did they go?
xedover [5k?\]: they can use their time anyway they want
GoGetta [-\]: There going finish it in the bathroom
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: Karcusrd, u gonna buy some new fur for Java?
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei is looking at other games.
USGO1 [-\]: He is the best-dressed player in the room.
amuna [1d\]: you have to think real hard here and then r12
GoGetta [-\]: *their 
rigor [6k\]: indeed amuna ^^
Onmyoji [2d\]: where are the players
rigor [6k\]: isnt there some time limit or something like that
squirrels [12k?\]: no
rigor [6k\]: this may take weeks otherwise
GoGetta [-\]: finally
Karcusrd [7k\]: last night they had the fancy bowls stones and goban
xedover [5k?\]: yes, they each have 2 hours on their clocks
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;W[qh]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: hm
squirrels [12k?\]: the longest game in history was about 6 months
KoReNJe [3d\]: best dressed?
GoGetta [-\]: No its not
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;B[rl]C[Tenji [2k\]: i think it's longer
WoolyMaCha [5k\]:    USGO1 , is Yonhfei a gentleman?
Tenji [2k\]: 6 months was normal once
rigor [6k\]: for a korean i guess... hes korean right?
KoReNJe [3d\]: she looks like a woman
]
;W[rh]
;B[oj]C[mcw85 [7k\]: A gentlemen, but never a gentle man.
GoGetta [-\]: They seal a move
squirrels [12k?\]: then the 6 rounds to decide the mijor took around 2 years
KoReNJe [3d\]: oh wait 
KoReNJe [3d\]: it's not that woman
TophBei [5d\]: cut
snowman [-\]: why do we need takemiya's comments when we've got korenje
KoReNJe [3d\]: true.. true...
squirrels [12k?\]: thats the lady who played MFG
rigor [6k\]: what did w do after bq11?
Tenji [2k\]: ing bowls are so ugly...
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;W[pm]C[Pische [8k\]: where can I read or listen takemiya's comments?
mcw85 [7k\]: ING clocks are so annoying.
Pische [8k\]: I mean not now, but generally
GoGetta [-\]: I always thought takemiya was dead O>o
mcw85 [7k\]: Very rude...
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;B[ql]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: lol
KoReNJe [3d\]: it's jsut a thought.
xedover [5k?\]: some thoughts ought not be spoken
mcw85 [7k\]: Takemiya's commentary hasn't begun yet.
TophBei [5d\]: why didnt cur at r8?
MKv2 [2d\]: not sure q7 isnt ashi keji
ooOoo [2d\]: ko?
TophBei [5d\]: cut
KoReNJe [3d\]: how to get strong at go? wear glasses.
GoGetta [-\]: Yeah glasses help you read better
rigor [6k\]: maybe i should put on another one... first ones dont appear to work properly ^^
KoReNJe [3d\]: haven't seen any 7d without glasses. except me.
gepay [3k\]: yes why not cut at r8?
mcw85 [7k\]: I have glasses, will I be 7d?
Onmyoji [2d\]: cut id bad
Onmyoji [2d\]: is
gepay [3k\]: why?
Karcusrd [7k\]: lol pinky drink
martin3141 [3k\]: the cut would have only weaken whits outside stone p9
Onmyoji [2d\]: because a 8p didnt play it
Tenji [2k\]: because cutting is rude
gepay [3k\]: so nobody can tell me ok
rigor [6k\]: i would have liked cuttin
rigor [6k\]: =)
squirrels [12k?\]: she needs to get the middle
mcw85 [7k\]: She?
mcw85 [7k\]: Who is the she? The guy or the other guy?
KoReNJe [3d\]: lol
rigor [6k\]: hm maybe im watching the wrong stream
rigor [6k\]: i dont see a she either
rigor [6k\]: =)
Tenji [2k\]: ...
Karcusrd [7k\]: he went to watch another game again
rigor [6k\]: getting tips
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;W[cj]
;B[ck]C[rigor [6k\]: thats why hes so strong :D
KoReNJe [3d\]: b is nervous
Tenji [2k\]: lol
KoReNJe [3d\]: or mayhe he's just dancing
mcw85 [7k\]: He is trying to distract Kim with a seductive dance?
Karcusrd [7k\]: i bet $100 thats a pack of marboro lights in his pocket
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;W[nj]
;B[ni]C[Koreangrl8 [3k\]: lol
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;W[oh]C[USGO1 [-\]: I'll take that bet.
siulongbao [6k\]: o9 ?
Tenji [2k\]: marboro..?
USGO1 [-\]: It's an electronic device.
USGO1 [-\]: I think his phone.
mcw85 [7k\]: Cigarettes, tenji.
Tenji [2k\]: marlboro, no?
gepay [3k\]: my guess is that kim would get more out of harassing whole group
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes. Marlboro.
R [1k\]: quality of this camera is so bad... He, she... it's not difference in picture. Euro camera was much better.
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;B[oi]C[Tenji [2k\]: i know my cigarettes, thank you
Rocker [4d\]: finished 1 game!
mcw85 [7k\]: Haha.
Karcusrd [7k\]: hes actually concientrating alot even tho he is moving around so much
Rocker [4d\]: they played only 5 moves ?
meuns [2k\]: tratrate rules
Tenji [2k\]: so restless...
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;W[mi]
;B[nh]C[meuns [2k\]: restless ?
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;W[mj]C[Djaian [3k\]: euro camera is a Canon XL1, us camera is a webcam (just do a google search on Canon XL1, you will understand the difference of quality)
Karcusrd [7k\]: Go uses stange energy even tho its just board game
Tenji [2k\]: stressed out
R [1k\]: buy better camera. USA has money, I know
xedover [5k?\]: the players have had a long week, many of them playing 2 long games a day... they're showing signs of being tired now
meuns [2k\]: lol
mcw85 [7k\]: We are in a recession.
sssss [5k?\]: O9 is better than O12
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;B[ne]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: what rank is usgo1?
evanj [2d\]: no it ain't
Tenji [2k\]: usa have money? http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
Karcusrd [7k\]: B is happy
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: xedover, does Kim look tired?
squirrels [12k?\]: she got the middle wich is all she needs
mcw85 [7k\]: USGO, does the AGA host any online tournaments??
mcw85 [7k\]: Again with this she.
evanj [2d\]: she again??
R [1k\]: this debt IS usa's money
USGO1 [-\]: KGS 1d - haven't played in a month... ;_;
KoReNJe [3d\]: so weak.
Rocker [4d\]: k4!
KoReNJe [3d\]: that's euro 1kyu 
USGO1 [-\]: Any ideas about white's plan here?
meuns [2k\]: tartrate never loses
KoReNJe [3d\]: w will play h4 or something
SergeyASh [12k\]: somebody know when will final in Moscow time?
Onmyoji [2d\]: white tries to kill
mcw85 [7k\]: What does tartrate have to do with this game? /sigh
KoReNJe [3d\]: pro's always make their own territory first, then invade
just9x9 [-\]: there is a rumour that this w is tartrate, according to dinerchtein
KoReNJe [3d\]: k4 also good
Rocker [4d\]: K4 COMON TOO EASY
MKv2 [2d\]: perhaps J3
evanj [2d\]: haha
Onmyoji [2d\]: dead
KoReNJe [3d\]: l4 good for b I think
evanj [2d\]: can someone explain to me what C10 was about?
mcw85 [7k\]: Well, if you want to talk about rumors... I heard that Elvis was driving the UFO that crashed in Roswell after a stag weekend with the martians.
just9x9 [-\]: really?
just9x9 [-\]: :P
Tenji [2k\]: cool
KoReNJe [3d\]: kim now looking at j4 area :p
helloworld [3k\]: too much booz imo
KoReNJe [3d\]: looking for the best move
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;W[ko]C[GoGetta [-\]: Thats not a rumor those are lies
KoReNJe [3d\]: ha
squirrels [12k?\]: taking the middle
KoReNJe [3d\]: that's a good mvoe
KoReNJe [3d\]: invades and makes territory
just9x9 [-\]: reduces I'd say
kodomo [4d\]: indeed
squirrels [12k?\]: and stabalises the group behind
MKv2 [2d\]: but it looks to me like white gotta finish in sente to turn to r17
Rocker [4d\]: J4
]
;B[ip]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: j6 :p
squirrels [12k?\]: G8
Rocker [4d\]: J5
GoGetta [-\]: What if black m4 ?
evanj [2d\]: nobody can explain C10?
trapare: U2
mcw85 [7k\]: C10 just a peep.
xiexieni [4d\]: its a peep
MKv2 [2d\]: m4, m5 i guess
meuns [2k\]: does j17 work for w ?
evanj [2d\]: sure, but strange peep
snowman [-\]: it's a poke, as bob terry says
mcw85 [7k\]: Has aji.
squirrels [12k?\]: just in case of ko wars 
Tenji [2k\]: it's a probe
Onmyoji [2d\]: go tartrate gooo
meuns [2k\]: j5
KoReNJe [3d\]: is w dringing cofee? he's kinda nervous
KoReNJe [3d\]: coffe
amuna [1d\]: c10 is better than c9-that is white played it
helloworld [3k\]: tartrate rumors again hmm
squirrels [12k?\]: why not tea
pebarefoot [-\]: too nuch coffee ?
Karcusrd [7k\]: looks like water only place
KoReNJe [3d\]: someone introduce kgs to takemiya :p I wanna teach him a lesson
mcw85 [7k\]: Even if Kim loses he still wins, I think?
just9x9 [-\]: and what would that lesson be? cosmic kibitz? :P
USGO1 [-\]: If Kim loses he will have a 5-1 record, and it will go to tiebreaker scores with other 5-1 records based on tournament rules.
]
;W[ie]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: cosmic massacre
Onmyoji [2d\]: pro cant lose to amateur
just9x9 [-\]: and what are the tiebreakers? sos?
xedover [5k?\]: where have you been, Onmyoji? happens all the time
Karcusrd [7k\]: crazy 8 komi
chwan [6d\]: black seems to be leading at this stage
USGO1 [-\]: Feng Yun will be doing the commentary for this game.
Tenji [2k\]: just h16 ?
xedover [5k?\]: how do you think pros become pros? they start out as amateurs then start beating pros
Karcusrd [7k\]: Im acually suffering with these chairs
mcw85 [7k\]: I see, USGO.
Rocker [4d\]: H16
cjalden [2k\]: pros start out as very talented children who go into training at a very early age
Karcusrd [7k\]: gave back ache watching
USGO1 [-\]: Kim cracked all his knuckles again before making this move.
GoGetta [-\]: Lol
]
;B[hd]
;W[he]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: each stone less alziemers more stroke
]
;B[sp]C[BuhariEX [2k\]: why t4 ?
daladim [1k\]: weird move
GoGetta [-\]: Intimidation is always the best way to win
squirrels [12k?\]: no he couldhave played d8
Genghis [1k\]: It is sente.  Thinking time maybe?
BuhariEX [2k\]: white can ignore
Tenji [2k\]: not 100% sente
Genghis [1k\]: White will not ignore.
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei has been bouncing his leg this whole time. Now Myung-Wan rocks back and forth.
R [1k\]: of course, w will ignore t4 
KoReNJe [3d\]: he's dancing
Karcusrd [7k\]: stone polishing 
GoGetta [-\]: Perfect couple?
freekevin [13k\]: wat does P stand for ?
daladim [1k\]: pro
freekevin [13k\]: p > d or < d ?
w1zzle [8k\]: ...
R [1k\]: p > d
freekevin [13k\]: mm
bneeman [?\]: pro unrelated to dan. pro ranks are based on win record, not strength
XY0908 [-\]: Can we have the link for the live-feed tv please?
R [1k\]: usually 1p > 7d
GoGetta [-\]: P stands for gotologist
freekevin [13k\]: so 8p or 7d who is stronger
GoGetta [-\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
XY0908 [-\]: Thanks.
USGO1 [-\]: The proper link is here 
squirrels [12k?\]: 8p
USGO1 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US 
jleone [5k\]: and win records is actually strength ..
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;W[rr]C[R [1k\]: WAT?
bneeman [?\]: win record is past strength, pro ranks never decrease 
R [1k\]: s2 ?!!
squirrels [12k?\]: no, it just means that you have more history
jleone [5k\]: i don't understand the last 2 moves ...
daladim [1k\]: i dont get that
R [1k\]: I don't too
mcw85 [7k\]: No ads on eurogo. ^^
R [1k\]: any comments from dans?
Genghis [1k\]: Doesn't want to give black another forcing move
Tenji [2k\]: i think i do, but it's probably wrong
jleone [5k\]: past is relative ..an young high pro means strenght for sure ..
squirrels [12k?\]: its to prevent something bad from happening
mcw85 [7k\]: R, a pro is offering commentary on USGO10.
JK81K [16k\]: how do I find it?
GoGetta [-\]: Who????
GoGetta [-\]: Top of active games
R [1k\]: thanks
]
;B[mh]C[GoGetta [-\]: Who is the pro??
cjalden [2k\]: preventing much more invasion but another B move wouldn't be sente.  Blocking at t3 he would have to answer again when B connects
squirrels [12k?\]: if she played at t3 then it would destabalise the R6 region
GoGetta [-\]: Oh feng yun nvm,
clp012345 [10k\]: why W not D10 ?
BuhariEX [2k\]: why was t4 sente?
USGO1 [-\]: For those of you just joining us:
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the American Go E-Journal’s LIVE coverage of the 2009 U.S. Go Congress! Today we’re bringing you the top boards at the U.S. Open, the Congress 6-round main tournament. Check the AGA website at www.usgo.org for Congress and tournament updates, including photos and more. This game is the 2009 U.S. Open, Round 6, Board 1, between Myung-Wan Kim and Yongfei Ge. I'm Solomon Smilack, your game recorder. Enjoy the game!
squirrels [12k?\]: d10 is for ko threats
USGO1 [-\]: Current tournament standings can be found here: http://gocongress.org/news.php US Open results are at http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72 NAIM results are at http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/62
maniprad [14k\]: tkx
KoReNJe [3d\]: lol
KoReNJe [3d\]: what's up with s2
clp012345 [10k\]: defending ... i think
squirrels [12k?\]: to prevent R6 from destabalising
]
;W[ic]C[kane955 [4k\]: so its a fact that kim is tartrate?
mcw85 [7k\]: Seems overplay.
mcw85 [7k\]: No, not a fact.
USGO1 [-\]: This is the first time I have seen Myung-Wan play a move with a real slap.
squirrels [12k?\]: not even with MFG
clp012345 [10k\]: Emm...Are Yougfei's dan a professional dan?
]
;B[ee]C[GoGetta [-\]: ooooooo intense
evanj [2d\]: no, clp
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: clp, no
clp012345 [10k\]: Anyone can answer me?|
GoGetta [-\]: /
xedover [5k?\]: Yongfei Ge is a strong Canadian amateur
mcw85 [7k\]: ...
clp012345 [10k\]: Okay
cjalden [2k\]: Yongfei won Open in 2007
clp012345 [10k\]: 7d = ?p ?
Syanide32 [5k\]: so the commentary in USGO10 is on this game, I didn't get that initially
mcw85 [7k\]: 7d=0p
KoReNJe [3d\]: 7d is someone who didn't take pro test
xedover [5k?\]: yet
KoReNJe [3d\]: 7d can be anyone from 1p to 9p
squirrels [12k?\]: i don't think that they would give a 1d a 7p rank
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;W[ff]C[cjalden [2k\]: d are based on numerical ratings.  p are titles given by national go federations
mcw85 [7k\]: And 30k could be the strongest player in the world who never played in any tournaments. Really, this rank equivalene discussion is silly in my opinion.
USGO1 [-\]: AGA rank is currently capped at 7d
]
;B[qc]C[meuns [2k\]: bbw is the strongest aga menber
BenSenTen [?\]: there is no aga 8d or 9d?
Hellhuman [4k\]: just watch in seoing who beat dinerstein these days, 7d won 2p, its normal these days
evanj [2d\]: 3p
xedover [5k?\]: no, Ben
Hellhuman [4k\]: sorry^^
BenSenTen [?\]: thx
meuns [2k\]: dinersteins is just another 7d now
Hellhuman [4k\]: hasnt catalin lose these days too?
BenSenTen [?\]: we just seen 7d beated 8p
mcw85 [7k\]: Strength of pros vary. many 3p are much stronger than Alex.
Hellhuman [4k\]: im not sure
meuns [2k\]: w ahead here
KoReNJe [3d\]: yongfei's dancing is confusing kim
pebarefoot [-\]: did breakfast lose todays game ?
R [1k\]: he won
cjalden [2k\]: highest AGA rating belonged to Feng Yun, before the start of the tournaments
pebarefoot [-\]: thx
BuhariEX [2k\]: yongfei is doing really well...
BenSenTen [?\]: maybe breakfast played too many teaching games, n infected by his k students..
xedover [5k?\]: I think Kim's rating is now higher than Feng Yun
squirrels [12k?\]: so your saying that yonggei is going to win
Argentum [5k?\]: seems like B gained a lot of points
Hellhuman [4k\]: is there a broadcast link to this game?
Hellhuman [4k\]: would like to see them :D
xedover [5k?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
BuhariEX [2k\]: kim always doing great comebacks... hope it'll happen now
GoGetta [-\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
Syanide32 [5k\]: what do the times look like? as in how much remaining for each player?
squirrels [12k?\]: USGO1 where are you
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;W[lh]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: dinerchtein is an outlier
USGO1 [-\]: Myung-Wan thought for a long time about this move.
xedover [5k?\]: they've been playing for not quite 2 hours yet, so I would guess that they haven't used up half of theit time yet
USGO1 [-\]: That's correct.
]
;B[re]C[BenSenTen [?\]: who is leading now?
Karcusrd [7k\]: that means we are all 7ds
]
;W[rf]
;B[jn]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: i wonder why myungwan is rocking backwards and forwards
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei slaps this stone down hard.
GoGetta [-\]: Oh yeah
BenSenTen [?\]: he probably has been doing that for many years
squirrels [12k?\]: i wonder if a stone has ever been broken during one of these
Karcusrd [7k\]: Why does go allways feel like a Battlefield battlefield
Warfreak2 [5d\]: it's like he has asperger's syndrome
Warfreak2 [5d\]: aspies are well known for rocking backwards and forwards :>
GoGetta [-\]: =_=
BenSenTen [?\]: seems b leading?? may lead more if has chance to j16...
GoGetta [-\]: Maybe he had HDHD =P
GoGetta [-\]: *ADHD
BuhariEX [2k\]: k8 ?
BuhariEX [2k\]: black has so many ways to decrease white's center...
mcw85 [7k\]: If there needs to be a tie breaker, when will this occur?
Borders [2d\]: i guess h8
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;W[il]C[cjalden [2k\]: rhythmic or unconscious motions often accompany intense thought
R [1k\]: almost :)
GoGetta [-\]: j8 ???
USGO1 [-\]: The tiebreaker score will be calculated. No tiebreaker games are played.
xedover [5k?\]: sos scores will be used for tiebreakers
BuhariEX [2k\]: g9 ?
BuhariEX [2k\]: k8 ?\\:
R [1k\]: I thought w k8 
Syanide32 [5k\]: what's an sos score?
cjalden [2k\]: sum of opponent's scores
BenSenTen [?\]: i like k9
mcw85 [7k\]: I thought so, but I could have sworn you say a game... :-/
GoGetta [-\]: j8 is a good move
mcw85 [7k\]: said*
Borders [2d\]: hard not to play h7 first for me
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;B[kn]C[GoGetta [-\]: l15 ???
BenSenTen [?\]: l8?
lonsan [1k\]: myungwan wearing his lucky shirt, gyf better stay sharp
R [1k\]: f9 
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;W[kp]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: there goes moyo
]
;B[jp]C[clp012345 [10k\]: h7
R [1k\]: m3 
]
;W[kr]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: territory should always be side result of attack
Shoujin [-\]: or death
BenSenTen [?\]: :)
R [1k\]: or joseki
]
;B[lq]
;W[lr]
;B[mp]C[soulspirit [2k?\]: w giving up points
BenSenTen [?\]: b really losing points
clp012345 [10k\]: M4...?
meuns [2k\]: no
R [1k\]: k2 :)
meuns [2k\]: m4 doesn't work
Uberdude [5d?\]: depends how you define work
meuns [2k\]: sure...
meuns [2k\]: m4 is a waste for w
Uberdude [5d?\]: kyus seem to tihnk work means sente
clp012345 [10k\]: m5?
lonsan [1k\]: i like to think of working as getting something awesome or avoiding something less than awesome
Desperis [6k\]: Can't see why m4 doesn't work
meuns [2k\]: "work" means points ^^
Desperis [6k\]: Anybody give the sequence pls
R [1k\]: kyu want to play o3 but it's too submissive for tartrate ;)
soulspirit [2k?\]: m4 doesn't 'work' because it doesn't benefit w, simple as that
soulspirit [2k?\]: if it benefits the player than it 'works' for him/her
meuns [2k\]: m4 k3 n5 o4 o3 o5 o6 k5 ?
BenSenTen [?\]: i would k3
meuns [2k\]: one simple sequence
blubb [1d\]: it looks to me as though M4 does work, although leaving w in rather awkward shape
R [1k\]: k2 is better than k3
KoReNJe [3d\]: t
BenSenTen [?\]: to me k3 is better n bigger
BenSenTen [?\]: n sente
meuns [2k\]: maybe w can push b against n10
meuns [2k\]: but it seems really hard
xedover [5k?\]: Michael Chen defeats Andy Liu on board 2
BenSenTen [?\]: b would just ignore k2...
Rocker [4d\]: kill all! 
KoReNJe [3d\]: w losing moyos
lee000001 [2d\]: But w got points.
meuns [2k\]: no m4 very bad
Rocker [4d\]: why kim games are always too slow and a little boring ?
KoReNJe [3d\]: normally it's good for w to reduce overall points on the table cuz of komi...
KoReNJe [3d\]: but here no chance
meuns [2k\]: p8 weakness is a big burn
PowerTower [1d\]: well, m4 is an atari
BenSenTen [?\]: b losing more moyo than w
meuns [2k\]: m4 is the end of the game
PowerTower [1d\]: no, it's an atari
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;W[jq]
;B[lp]C[BenSenTen [?\]: c
meuns [2k\]: look
BenSenTen [?\]: k3
meuns [2k\]: o2 forced ?
BenSenTen [?\]: P
Loop [5k\]: L5 only 1 eye :o
meuns [2k\]: xD
meuns [2k\]: what ?
PowerTower [1d\]: wow  *zonker*-move it is
Rocker [4d\]: o3   comon
KoReNJe [3d\]: rocker, there are still worse moves
PowerTower [1d\]: quiz: find the worst move possible
Rocker [4d\]: they should play faster whether making good or bad moves
Desperis [6k\]: t19
snes [-\]: fo w is B6
PowerTower [1d\]: b6 is a good canditate for the worst move
Loop [5k\]: J5 ?
Desperis [6k\]: b6 nice also
mcw85 [7k\]: B6 is emo tesuji.
KoReNJe [3d\]: lol
BenSenTen [?\]: j2?
KoReNJe [3d\]: j3
Rocker [4d\]: emo humour
martin3141 [3k\]: w needs to play o3
]
;W[nq]C[PowerTower [1d\]: ok, now we turn to the best move opssible
Desperis [6k\]: b6 is sente
KoReNJe [3d\]: nooo
Desperis [6k\]: sente is good :P
soulspirit [2k?\]: sente us for fool
soulspirit [2k?\]: is*
soulspirit [2k?\]: sente is for fools, sente is for kyus
]
;B[jr]C[PowerTower [1d\]: sente is great
KoReNJe [3d\]: why did he have to play rocker-weakerthanme move
Over9k [2k\]: sente is useless that's y there's even a book called get strong at gote
soulspirit [2k?\]: sente is soo overrated it's not even funny
]
;W[iq]C[PowerTower [1d\]: so good the players won't see our "commentaries", though
]
;B[ir]
;W[hq]
;B[hr]
;W[lo]C[usagi [1d\]: Sente is everything.
soulspirit [2k?\]: and everything is nothing
soulspirit [2k?\]: so sente is nothing
Rocker [4d\]: cuz it better than koren weaker than 3d move!
holycarp [-\]: your brain is nothing
TheBOrg [7k\]: whos winning?
BenSenTen [?\]: don't know
soulspirit [2k?\]: ok, my brain may be nothing, but that is no concern of yours and niether is it the topic of the current conversation
mcw85 [7k\]: We are all winners.
GoGetta [-\]: If sente was meant nothing there will be no komi
KoReNJe [3d\]: w losing totaly
soulspirit [2k?\]: so refrain from posting self-degrading comments
meuns [2k\]: tratrate
clp012345 [10k\]: I think black
PowerTower [1d\]: people become so aggitated when it comes to "one's own brain" - wonder why this is so
TheBOrg [7k\]: feng yun plays better moves than the current payers
Rocker [4d\]: wow i have no clue what w is doing
ChristianB [3d\]:  w really 8p ?
meuns [2k\]: L6 will be captured
cjalden [2k\]: while the spectators distract themselves with inane babbling, the game continues. . . 
soulspirit [2k?\]: because it only shows the ignorance of the one who mentions 'one's own brain'
ChristianB [3d\]: looks kyu level for me
PowerTower [1d\]: :-)
TheBOrg [7k\]: ChristianB i dont want to see your games, then
PowerTower [1d\]: but is it not a matter of lack of self-reflection to mention the other one's brain?
soulspirit [2k?\]: how would it be?
KoReNJe [3d\]: n5 game over
Rocker [4d\]: h4 camon
BenSenTen [?\]: l9? m6?
TheBOrg [7k\]: see feng yun commentaries
KoReNJe [3d\]: N5
]
;B[hp]C[Rocker [4d\]: muhaha
holycarp [-\]: what she say
BenSenTen [?\]: b hungry
]
;W[mo]
;B[np]C[holycarp [-\]: shes still not here
]
;W[no]
;B[op]C[GoGetta [-\]: I prefer commentaries after the game is over
evanj [2d\]: she's on USGO10
ChristianB [3d\]: I don't s33 your point
]
;W[oq]
;B[gq]C[TheBOrg [7k\]: she said holycarp plays like 20kyu
]
;W[fk]C[WoolyMaCha [5k\]: haha
holycarp [-\]: but in move 73
Rocker [4d\]: i got too bored with the commentary
TheBOrg [7k\]: :-)
Rocker [4d\]: cant follow the game
KoReNJe [3d\]: pro moyo powa in action
BenSenTen [?\]: b losing center
rigor [6k\]: b will invade
meuns [2k\]: k5 is lighting here
Sheeple [3k\]: is there a wall list online
Sheeple [3k\]: with invisible "?"
squirrels [12k?\]: d10
mcw85 [7k\]: http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/72
Sheeple [3k\]: thanks
]
;B[kf]C[mcw85 [7k\]: I don't think center is big enough.
rigor [6k\]: agreed will be very small in the end
rigor [6k\]: like always
rigor [6k\]: =)
clp012345 [10k\]: 30 - 60 points
Rocker [4d\]: k13 then b will k8
mcw85 [7k\]: ...
MKv2 [2d\]: no way 60 points
KoReNJe [3d\]: b so clever
mcw85 [7k\]: No way 30, haha.
rigor [6k\]: 10 at most
dogbert [3d\]: j16 or k13?
rigor [6k\]: maybe 15
KoReNJe [3d\]: if w goes for moyo, he risks losing top, and f6 for black
Lion [2d\]: b+resign
Lion [2d\]: ?
Porkypine [8k\]: Don't suppose there'll be a live feed of the prize ceremony of the euro congress, iwll there?
holycarp [-\]: in my info
KoReNJe [3d\]: hairy will be too tired. + have to go on depilation
GoGetta [-\]: there is a prize cerenony ???
Sheeple [3k\]: yes, it's now. so no feed
]
;W[lg]C[Porkypine [8k\]: roar what a shame :(
KoReNJe [3d\]: he might surprise you. you never knmow
Porkypine [8k\]: Still don't know who won :( was it Kim Eunkuk?
choboco [1k\]: did kim win against bbw?
Rocker [4d\]: m13 is pro's pride
rigor [6k\]: is kim taking speed or kokain, here pretty itchy
rigor [6k\]: very strange moving all the time
holycarp [-\]: paris hilton will come to give the trophy
xedover [5k?\]: kim is undefeated so far
rigor [6k\]: for how long?
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: 5-0
rigor [6k\]: hm
KoReNJe [3d\]: paris hilton looks like she's from montenegro or bosnia
goplayer0 [8k\]: time now?
squirrels [12k?\]: she won last year too
Rocker [4d\]: he was toyed by an ama 7d yesterday! tho
]
;B[of]C[usagi [1d\]: kokain? lol
Rocker [4d\]: paris hilton nose 
dogbert [3d\]: McCaine
JeanVidToi [6k\]: yose
KoReNJe [3d\]: n14
JeanVidToi [6k\]: ph yose
goplayer0 [8k\]: what's time left for both?
JeanVidToi [6k\]: s16 
Rocker [4d\]: nicole hilton has the same nose
SColbert [3d\]: i think w will go j16
squirrels [12k?\]: time pry like 45 min for both
USGO1 [-\]: 26 minutes for white, 1:13 for black.
Rocker [4d\]: k13
cjalden [2k\]: the handsome heartthrobs of KGS now critique the defects of actresses. . . .
Rocker [4d\]: camon dun be too greedy
lee000001 [2d\]: K13 is really good but before that, can w play Q12 first?
Hellhuman [4k\]: black ahead?
JeanVidToi [6k\]: b plays like Myung yestarday
usagi [1d\]: b might be ahead
R [1k\]: k5 
usagi [1d\]: b seems to have some sort of intangible advantage
Hellhuman [4k\]: 7d amas crushing pros these days :D
rigor [6k\]: w got 30 points save w about 40-50 i would guess
rigor [6k\]: b
dogbert [3d\]: i feel b a head too, just worry about g17 group after j16
Rocker [4d\]: why kims game is alway moyo oriented game? its veryy boring to constantly think about counting territoried during games
]
;W[je]C[JeanVidToi [6k\]: i'd like to see some miracle tesuji by w:)
usagi [1d\]: f2 tesuji
SColbert [3d\]: w wants to play f18
]
;B[ke]C[bobstep [2k?\]: Is Ge Yongfei on kgs?
rigor [6k\]: k17
usagi [1d\]: b18
R [1k\]: k17 ? for what?
Rocker [4d\]: k13!
cjalden [2k\]: what is really boring is to keep hearing that thinking and counting are boring :-)
rigor [6k\]: isnt that to defensive rocker?
rigor [6k\]: black invades anyway
rigor [6k\]: o
Rocker [4d\]: but its big
rigor [6k\]: but its center
Erimies [4d\]: k13 not yet
bobstep [2k?\]: b17 getting large?
rigor [6k\]: upper side is huge
Erimies [4d\]: b17 indeed
cjalden [2k\]: B top now needs care
dogbert [3d\]: j18 or k17
usagi [1d\]: k13
usagi [1d\]: rocker is always right
rigor [6k\]: not this time
holycarp [-\]: counting is not boring just machines task then time wasting
cajkovskij [5d\]: why is he 4d ?
rigor [6k\]: its my turn :D
rigor [6k\]: tell me i dont know ;D
usagi [1d\]: you don't know
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: Ge walks away
salvor7 [2k\]: lol
Rocker [4d\]: i would too
dogbert [3d\]: he need some oxegon
rigor [6k\]: how much time left for both?
wenkang [6k\]: C11
k23 [3k\]: lol
wenkang [6k\]: look fun
k23 [3k\]: c11 is way too small
rigor [6k\]: agreed
SColbert [3d\]: k17 biggest
Erimies [4d\]: k17 not needed
rigor [6k\]: told ya rocker :)
WoolyMaCha [5k\]:  USGO1, are u the gentleman sitting next to Kim MyungWan ?
Levvo [7k\]: yes he his :P
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: thx
usagi [1d\]: h18 > k17
rigor [6k\]: hmm
rigor [6k\]: right
]
;W[jg]C[rigor [6k\]: i think
k23 [3k\]: some1 kind could give me the link of the live stream?
SColbert [3d\]: j16 k16 k17 g16 h17 f17 f18 g18 
SColbert [3d\]: okay
rigor [6k\]: arg 
rigor [6k\]: rocker damn it ^^
USGO1 [-\]: Yes, Solomon left. I'm Max Peterson.
Rocker [4d\]: pros should spend only 5 min but still should manage to an ama spending 1 hours , otherwise why pro?
holycarp [-\]: look my info
BenSenTen [?\]: k13 bigger
usagi [1d\]: Rocker is always right
Rocker [4d\]: i m always right
k23 [3k\]: thanks
Rocker [4d\]: ah thx
Syanide32 [5k\]: welcome back Max.
rigor [6k\]: maybe he s kim, ... thats how he knows
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: Ge is back.
rigor [6k\]: =)
Rocker [4d\]: to beat an ama*
Long88 [2d\]: oh no b should resign
]
;B[kl]
;W[jk]C[WoolyMaCha [5k\]:   Who is the man with a blue T-shirt, the judge?
]
;B[kk]C[BenSenTen [?\]: why not l9?
]
;W[kj]C[Erimies [4d\]: its same
]
;B[gl]C[Syanide32 [5k\]: did we just lose the video?
Ophelia [-\]: anyone else lose thevideo feed?
Levvo [7k\]: yea
rigor [6k\]: we did
Vash3G [-\]: the feed is still going
BenSenTen [?\]: l9 no different to l8?
USGO1 [-\]: Blue t-shirt is observer. All attendants get those blue t-shirts
Vash3G [-\]: the blue shirts are congress attendee shirts
Rocker [4d\]: pro spending more time thinking than ama = bruised ego
rigor [6k\]: back again
trapare: where can I get that video feed?
]
;W[in]
;B[jo]C[Levvo [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
]
;W[gk]C[trapare: thx
Levvo [7k\]: ^^
holycarp [-\]:  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest you dont have to sign in for this one
rigor [6k\]: usgo1 whats the time left for both?
sssss [5k?\]: w win, right?
Levvo [7k\]: It's been running all night =D
SColbert [3d\]: interesting
k23 [3k\]: why the amateurs always get the left side?
SColbert [3d\]: e8 sente
SColbert [3d\]: so no wedge at j7
sssss [5k?\]: b2 first
xiexieni [4d\]: im not convinced its sente
Rocker [4d\]: r15
]
;B[br]
;W[an]C[holycarp [-\]: left brain predominance?
sssss [5k?\]: i am right
BenSenTen [?\]: b just doesn't know what to do, lower left quarter gone
]
;B[bc]C[JeanVidToi [6k\]: w is going to kill d17  group , right?
Rocker [4d\]: big
rigor [6k\]: not anymore
rigor [6k\]: i think
Rocker [4d\]: w r15
JeanVidToi [6k\]: not any more)
]
;W[rd]C[Rocker [4d\]: uh
rigor [6k\]: wrong
rigor [6k\]: haha
rigor [6k\]: hes wrong
bkta93hut3 [7k?\]: anybody can explain me why b j16 is not as big as I think?
rigor [6k\]: muhahah ^^
Rocker [4d\]: ok thats better
SColbert [3d\]: j16 k16 k17 g16 h17 f17 f18 g18 
Erimies [4d\]: too much aji there
TheCount [2d?\]: bkta, becayse w gets in on the left side
Erimies [4d\]: boh players ignore it
bkta93hut3 [7k?\]: thx Scolbert
SColbert [3d\]: then
SColbert [3d\]: h18 e18 g19 e17 
TheCount [2d?\]: scolbert explained it better
Rocker [4d\]: but i knew b r15 would be the biiggest move at the moment , and 8p thought so too
dogbert [3d\]: before b17, j16 would be sente, probably not now
KoReNJe [3d\]: if b cuts at j16, w can still get to the top side by atari at g16
martin3141 [3k\]: bt2 or wt3 will be big soon
Rocker [4d\]: f8
dogbert [3d\]: white could cut with F17 if b J16
SColbert [3d\]: b's around 30 points
soporific [4k\]: w big lead then
Rocker [4d\]: gee
rigor [6k\]: w also around this
BenSenTen [?\]: maybe b counting
soporific [4k\]: w has like 50-60
SColbert [3d\]: not 50-60
rigor [6k\]: not on this board
rigor [6k\]: at least
rigor [6k\]: =)
rigor [6k\]: 40 at most
rigor [6k\]: right now
BenSenTen [?\]: f16?
Rocker [4d\]: camong!
Rocker [4d\]: mighty scolbert lets play?
BenSenTen [?\]: f16 BIG
JeanVidToi [6k\]: j16 
R [1k\]: I counted fifty-fifty ;)
BenSenTen [?\]: f16 then j16
soporific [4k\]: 12 pts bottom right 10 pts top right 4 bottom left 15 center + any points in right middle and in d10 region +komi
R [1k\]: 50 for w and 50 for B
KoReNJe [3d\]: i counted 4 more cookies in the basket.
]
;B[qd]
;W[qe]
;B[rc]C[BenSenTen [?\]: i counted 3 in my stomach...
R [1k\]: what is basket, what is stomach? guys...
BenSenTen [?\]: n 2 in my mouth...PPP
Gary34 [4k?\]: I have to run out for snacks now
KoReNJe [3d\]: game is almost even
KoReNJe [3d\]: b slightly ahead by 2 pts
Syanide32 [5k\]: is L18 adventagious for white?
soporific [4k\]: b is losing unless g8 region can be expanded
WoolyMaCha [5k\]:  It seems that Kim likes to wear red shirts.
SColbert [3d\]: if w wants to play
SColbert [3d\]: probably k17
]
;W[jc]C[lonsan [1k\]: it seems kim brought only two shirts to congress
BenSenTen [?\]: it would be exciting if b beat w
indo [1k\]: where can i see the video?
Uberdude [5d?\]: red is good colour
SColbert [3d\]: can f18
Levvo [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Uberdude [5d?\]: makes you win
JeanVidToi [6k\]: W WINS:)
holycarp [-\]:  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest you dont have to sign in for this one
]
;B[kc]C[BenSenTen [?\]: haven't seen w beated before
dsaun [2d\]: holycarp, seems they don't like having the non-registrered feed advertised, i got warned yesterday
SColbert [3d\]: maybe g18
SColbert [3d\]: f18 doesn't seem to work
]
;W[dj]
;B[bj]C[holycarp [-\]: it was white b4 to start play
Uberdude [5d?\]: football teams wearing red win more
holycarp [-\]: oh ok
USGO1 [-\]: White has 15 minutes of main time left.
USGO1 [-\]: Black has over an hour remaining.
holycarp [-\]: they told you why not?
dsaun [2d\]: didn't say
R [1k\]: rocking needs much time
indo [1k\]: ge is boring
]
;W[ci]
;B[bi]
;W[ek]C[cjalden [2k\]: Ge is a very solid and cool-headed player
R [1k\]: i see
salvor7 [2k\]: which translates to boring for some
SColbert [3d\]: w center about 20 points
SColbert [3d\]: bottome right 10
]
;B[sd]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: 20 opints is good for what could have been a weak group
rigor [6k\]: hm
SColbert [3d\]: 4 points on the left
leger [1d\]: Ge Yongfei is a strong player, but how come he is on board 1, with 2 losses ?
]
;W[oo]
;B[jq]
;W[el]
;B[dl]C[nemoneko [5k\]: everyone with only 1 loss already played Kim Myung-Wan
leger [1d\]: what about people with no loss ?
Uberdude [5d?\]: i wonder who that 1 loss was to :p
nemoneko [5k\]: other people with no loss are not in the open division
rigor [6k\]: t16 was wrong
R [1k\]: the center was 25 points, and now even more
rigor [6k\]: right?
Erimies [4d\]: has kim lost ?
JeanVidToi [6k\]: f6 
Uberdude [5d?\]: t16 big
Uberdude [5d?\]: i can't fault it offhand
Hoyuk [12k\]: is bbw finished?
SColbert [3d\]: not 25..
captnapalm [1d\]: can w not attack d17 group more?
rigor [6k\]: why is t16 better than e8
rigor [6k\]: ??
]
;W[lk]C[soporific [4k\]: centerlike 20 i think
GoGetta [-\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
]
;B[hm]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: because it is more points
]
;W[im]C[rigor [6k\]: thx 4 the detailed answer
SColbert [3d\]: m7 can make points
soporific [4k\]: m7 not really sente
]
;B[fm]C[GoGetta [-\]: Wow black can really win tis
R [1k\]: q15 is  huge gote
Erimies [4d\]: p15 coming
SColbert [3d\]: p15 bad..
Erimies [4d\]: after m8
Uberdude [5d?\]: m7 i think
]
;W[sq]C[SColbert [3d\]: q15 better
SColbert [3d\]: once b gets a stone at q14
SColbert [3d\]: then can t11
leger [1d\]: b q15 bigger than t5 ?
SColbert [3d\]: t11 t12 t14 t13 r13 q13 q12 
]
;B[hb]C[R [1k\]: ohhh
Uberdude [5d?\]: that was w's sente
R [1k\]: was
leger [1d\]: wow, forget what i said about ge yongfei being first board.. i just counted quickly and doesn't he lead ?
SColbert [3d\]: hmm
salvor7 [2k\]: I think so also
SColbert [3d\]: missing h18 is bad..
salvor7 [2k\]: thouight it is close
]
;W[kb]
;B[lb]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: if h18 is a good move w  made a mistake
Ferushen [6k\]: i just quickly used score estimate and i think he does
Uberdude [5d?\]: i don't see anytihng that big he can get now
salvor7 [2k\]: one he couldn't afford rreally
]
;W[fd]C[soporific [4k\]: q15
Ranye [8k\]: why do both sides ignore m7?
nemoneko [5k\]: m7 not important
leger [1d\]: no, m7 isn't small
SaurusDNA [7k\]: m7 gote
fatihsulak [2d\]: k8 is sente for black 
Ranye [8k\]: in my count it s aroud 5-8 points
SColbert [3d\]: b can eat k18
SColbert [3d\]: if has more threats
Ranye [8k\]: for w m7 gote?
letroll [1k\]: close game
rigor [6k\]: how much time left for w?
Erimies [4d\]: w wants him to eat k18 :d
SColbert [3d\]: haha
XY0908 [-\]: The link for live-feed-tv please.
]
;B[ks]C[SColbert [3d\]: it seems that b has more threats
]
;W[mr]C[USGO1 [-\]: A video stream of this board is available here: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US 
KlerChazal [-\]: q15 not big ?
rigor [6k\]: gote
fantasygo [1d\]: what's reason for f16?
]
;B[ef]C[SColbert [3d\]: well
rigor [6k\]: hmm
]
;W[eg]C[SColbert [3d\]: if b eats at k18
rigor [6k\]: dont understand e14
Hoyuk [12k\]: c13
SColbert [3d\]: k18 j18 l19 f18 f17 g18 h17 h19 
leger [1d\]: q15 looks big
R [1k\]: guys, stones are not eatable
]
;B[pe]C[salvor7 [2k\]: lol
]
;W[pf]C[Godaisuki [1k\]: R, edible <--
]
;B[oe]C[yabyum [2k\]: huge
svante [3k\]: R, you tell me now?!
leger [1d\]: with q15, i think black wins
coldnight [1k\]: by my count white is leading by about 15 points
t0Strong4u [1d\]: e14 threatens d13 cut @ rigor
Oogway [2k\]: as long as you don't play with chocolate stones ^^
mcw85 [7k\]: Everything on the goban is eatable, I mean edible.
Erstnick [?\]: didnt feng yun say black almost should give up
Hoyuk [12k\]: don't listen to him, he is from the anti-go group grrr
XY0908 [-\]: Thanks, USGO1 as always.
Hoyuk [12k\]: stones are delish
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: ' eat' for some implies to kill.
USGO1 [-\]: It's my pleasure, as usual.
SColbert [3d\]: so b 55 ish
rigor [6k\]: but wouldnt that be double atari if e14 would have been ignored
rigor [6k\]: @strong4u
ecgotf [6k\]: thanks, solomon
dogbert [3d\]: feng yun perhaps though Andy liu should give up too:)
daladim [1k\]: b s yose seems better for me
coldnight [1k\]: naa
leger [1d\]: i'm curious, when did feng yun comment?
svante [3k\]: trying to kill a stone must be harder than eating it
Lax [3k\]: considering some go stones were made out of shellfish, maybe ancient go players actually ate stones ?
]
;W[ib]C[SColbert [3d\]: it's super close
Ferushen [6k\]: Lax...
SaurusDNA [7k\]: Feng Yun did a complete game commentary at USG10
broskev [7k\]: thats so true svante :)
SColbert [3d\]: w may have slight advantage
mcw85 [7k\]: How can she do a complete commentary when game is not yet complete?
SaurusDNA [7k\]: USGO10
FlameBlade [-\]: see that 8p?  That's from Korea.  Clearly an advantage.
leger [1d\]: wow.. nice commentary, if he suggested that black should resign..
dogbert [3d\]: what is the komi
svante [3k\]: Didn't Feng Yun conclude that it was and easy win for W?
SaurusDNA [7k\]: Live commentary
mcw85 [7k\]: SHE
t0Strong4u [1d\]: feng yun is a woman
SergeyASh [12k\]: this is final?
mcw85 [7k\]: KGS is gender confused today.
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes, finale.
]
;B[fb]C[leger [1d\]: f18 maybe 
leger [1d\]: alright
]
;W[hn]C[SaurusDNA [7k\]: USGO01 Live - USGO10 commentary about 10 moves behicd
Erimies [4d\]: kim won all his matches?
Hoyuk [12k\]: what is a male squirrel called?
BenSenTen [?\]: i guess so
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes.
]
;B[gn]C[Oogway [2k\]: squirrel?
ZT1LB [3d\]: did anyone count manually
salvor7 [2k\]: is komi 7.5?
Thew [3k\]: javaness?
TheBeast [?\]: Mr.
XY0908 [-\]: Keep the comments to the game please.
Hoyuk [12k\]: and me
SColbert [3d\]: i did
mcw85 [7k\]: Komi 7.5.
dsaun [2d\]: komi = 8.0, it's Ing rules
]
;W[og]C[dsaun [2d\]: but functionally 7.5
xedover [5k?\]: no, its aga rules
]
;B[mf]C[Hoyuk [12k\]: wow, alotta komi
]
;W[la]C[salvor7 [2k\]: has that been stated by USGO at some point?
]
;B[ma]
;W[ka]
;B[mb]
;W[ha]C[dsaun [2d\]: many games, salvor7
Doby [7k\]: this is the final round, and 7 players will finish tied a 6-0
]
;B[ga]
;W[ia]C[Erstnick [?\]: haha
]
;B[gd]C[Erstnick [?\]: perfect
ZT1LB [3d\]: need a few more rounds
]
;W[cg]
;B[bh]
;W[ac]
;B[ab]C[leger [1d\]: w leads, i think, but it's close
]
;W[ad]C[cjalden [2k\]: those players are all in different sections
]
;B[cb]C[R [1k\]: time for m8 
mcw85 [7k\]: Komi is 7.5.
Erimies [4d\]: m7 guys
ZT1LB [3d\]: tiebreakers suck
rigor [6k\]: m7 would be nice
rigor [6k\]: now
]
;W[ll]C[Ferushen [6k\]: whew
]
;B[jl]C[salvor7 [2k\]: whites now I think
GoGetta [-\]: Good yose by white
]
;W[pk]
;B[pj]
;W[hl]
;B[gm]C[leger [1d\]: t5 now
JeanVidToi [6k\]: Good bye, yose good bye
coldnight [1k\]: i dont think  its close looks like white is leading  by a nice margin
SColbert [3d\]: white wins
Shoujin [-\]: go black person
]
;W[so]C[salvor7 [2k\]: now it looks like white leads by a good margin
]
;B[sn]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: 8p is supposed to do near perfect yose
JeanVidToi [6k\]: r7 
mcw85 [7k\]: I don't think the rule set is ING, either.
leger [1d\]: r7 mistake
leger [1d\]: t7 t9 
coldnight [1k\]: perfet yose is hard
SColbert [3d\]: a2 biggest
JeanVidToi [6k\]: for sure:)
leger [1d\]: oh sorry, i read t7, and not r7
Erstnick [?\]: near perfect yose
BenSenTen [?\]: sai do perfect yose
udin: e17 
Celedyr [10k?\]: ruleset is aga 
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes.
USGO4 [-\]: Options-Rules
SColbert [3d\]: a2 is 3 points +
]
;W[ln]
;B[pl]
;W[ol]C[dsaun [2d\]: oh, is it? thanks Celedyr
]
;B[ph]
;W[pg]C[GoGetta [-\]: This isnt the ing tournament =_=
dsaun [2d\]: yes yes, thanks
rigor [6k\]: t9
coldnight [1k\]: even for mega pros like  lee sedol  yose is hard
fatihsulak [2d\]: w + 5 i guess
Syptryn [3d\]: black has chance
Syptryn [3d\]: if he maintains sente
R [1k\]: and sente for what?
SColbert [3d\]: a3
leger [1d\]: perfect yose probably gives something like w+2 here
JeanVidToi [6k\]: masacrator part 6
threeoone [4k\]: yose is harder if ur in byoomi
SColbert [3d\]: biggest
Syptryn [3d\]: T-9
Syptryn [3d\]: gogogo
ZT1LB [3d\]: lol if jigo w/o komi
captnapalm [1d\]: l13 g15 before a3?
SColbert [3d\]: t9 is always b sente
leger [1d\]: b a3 eventually
Syptryn [3d\]: and thn G-15, L-13 etc
leger [1d\]: but maybe force a few sente moves first
BenSenTen [?\]: if b make perfect yose, maybe b+2
SColbert [3d\]: can leave it till the end
]
;B[aq]
;W[ap]
;B[ar]C[ychen666 [?\]: looks like w will win by 0.5
]
;W[qm]C[rigor [6k\]: hm
Syptryn [3d\]: mmm
]
;B[rm]
;W[pn]C[kenji1993 [18k\]: theres athe a3 and a2
coldnight [1k\]: i dont get black yose
Syptryn [3d\]: ya
rigor [6k\]: me neither
SColbert [3d\]: it's a 3 point move
Syptryn [3d\]: that failed
coldnight [1k\]:  why not L13 first
Syptryn [3d\]: badly
evanj [2d\]: L13?
Bad [5d\]: a14
SunnyD [2d\]: is Kim living in the US?
dogbert [3d\]: when an amateur faces a pro, amateur should give up:)
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes, LA
BenSenTen [?\]: near perfect yose is hard to understand
leger [1d\]: l13 
SColbert [3d\]: a14 is 4 points
cjalden [2k\]: tell Andy that, dogbert
SunnyD [2d\]: what is he doing there?
nemoneko [5k\]: dogbert - andy liu beat 3 pros in Ing Masters
Aoiro [8k\]: ko threats
]
;B[ge]C[SColbert [3d\]: maybe 3 
]
;W[gf]C[fatihsulak [2d\]: how is it 4 points? 
Hoyuk [12k\]: he got kim-med!
Erimies [4d\]: kim is such weak person
]
;B[fc]C[lolmanever [2k\]: lol if an amatuer faces a pro and instanly give up, the amateur will never become a pro
Syptryn [3d\]: huh
Bad [5d\]: 3
svante [3k\]: dogbert, tell that to Joon who beat Catalin today
SColbert [3d\]: if b gets it
evanj [2d\]: amateurs don't become pros ilke that anyway
dogbert [3d\]: i was joking
SColbert [3d\]: so 3 points
fatihsulak [2d\]: ok :-) 
evanj [2d\]: why is b taking gote so much?
Syptryn [3d\]: black yose weird
IGoofy [1d\]: yose is for those too weak to win earlier
rigor [6k\]: i would like to know that too @ syptryn
lolmanever [2k\]: Lee chang ho wins like this
R [1k\]: w+2 ?
bohica [4k\]: hard to keep up with the tempo ;)
evanj [2d\]: granted, i don't understand yose at all, but...
]
;W[qo]C[SColbert [3d\]: 14 for w
evanj [2d\]: goofy: haha
]
;B[rn]C[SunnyD [2d\]: he plays weak opening
SColbert [3d\]: a14 for w
GoGetta [-\]: ??????????
Syptryn [3d\]: okay
lolmanever [2k\]: i like his style though
BenSenTen [?\]: b makes very imperfect yose...
Syptryn [3d\]: this is for black
Syptryn [3d\]: especially if whit takes T-8
]
(;W[lf]C[evanj [2d\]: ???
]
;B[le]
;W[kg]C[salvor7 [2k\]: it seems to be a win by just more than komi
]
;B[jf]
;W[if]
;B[af]C[SColbert [3d\]: finally
]
;W[ng]C[WoolyMaCha [5k\]: They left.
]
;B[mg]C[Syptryn [3d\]: black lose out during yose...
Karcusrd [7k\]: no they are fighting out in the hall
]
;W[em]
;B[en]C[Syptryn [3d\]: still no T-9
]
;W[ls]C[JeanVidToi [6k\]: he wants to make oponent sure he's winning:) 
Syptryn [3d\]: white will get to play it likely
Syptryn [3d\]: now
Ophelia [-\]: white seemed ahead on the board a while ago...
coldnight [1k\]: are they runing  out of time?
kenji1993 [18k\]: t-9 would be good
cjalden [2k\]: t9 was never sente
rigor [6k\]: w +4,5
rigor [6k\]: t9 is sente 
lolmanever [2k\]: i thought white won by 3.5 points
ychen666 [?\]: b should have done L13.
TKo [1d\]: not for w :D
rigor [6k\]: right ^^
GoGetta [-\]: Ithink usgo1 is missing moves =_=
Hoyuk [12k\]: t9 yeah baby
ychen666 [?\]: very close.
Aoiro [8k\]: yes
Aoiro [8k\]: I watch the video on eurogotv
mcw85 [7k\]: Did USGO stop scribing?
xinGo [10k\]: usgo gave up
xinGo [10k\]: too fast
USGO1 [-\]: I have fallen behind - black ignored this for a move at t9. I think.
Aoiro [8k\]: and he stared just at the screen while they played 10 moves
evanj [2d\]: :(
SColbert [3d\]: w about 70
Aoiro [8k\]: I would fail earlier
Hoyuk [12k\]: you have to think usgo pls
IGoofy [1d\]: usgo read the chat too intense
Ophelia [-\]: it's really hard to keep up ith fast end game!  and the score is pretty decided by now anyway.
evanj [2d\]: record over
ZT1LB [3d\]: it doesnt matter anymore
evanj [2d\]: wait for score
Rocker [4d\]: w +3.5?
SColbert [3d\]: b far before 
Ophelia [-\]: most game records don't finish the dame anyway.
SColbert [3d\]: b far behind
]
;B[sl]C[cjalden [2k\]: don't fault the scribes when the players are slapping moves down quickly
evanj [2d\]: no, it's not his fault, just too bad :)
GoGetta [-\]: Just wait for the end result
]
;W[ho]C[SColbert [3d\]: SE is not reliable
]
;B[go]C[IGoofy [1d\]: ask them to replay in slowmo
evanj [2d\]: there should be overhead camera on rewindable video :)
FlameBlade [-\]: white definitely wins this.
]
;W[ed]
;B[sj]
;W[si]
;B[sk]
;W[ec]C[XY0908 [-\]: Hello Dan.
]
;B[eb]C[Hoyuk [12k\]: not so loud scolbert, he might here you
GoGetta [-\]: ?????????????
sayang: every scribe's nightmare
coldnight [1k\]: ????
sayang: a fast endgame
coldnight [1k\]: wtf?
ychen666 [?\]: Final result will be W+1.5. You'll see...
FlameBlade [-\]: more
TKo [1d\]: :|
coldnight [1k\]: D13
R [1k\]: impossible. t13 kills
SColbert [3d\]: ?????
]
;W[sf]C[GoGetta [-\]: White died????????
XY0908 [-\]: coldnight, please...
]
;B[ri]C[evanj [2d\]: no, somethings off
]
;W[rj]C[squirrels [12k?\]: just like last year
evanj [2d\]: ignore the sequence
evanj [2d\]: final result: b + 20 :)
GoGetta [-\]: Oh
Ophelia [-\]: They are counting now.
]
;B[al]
;W[am]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Counting.
]
;B[ak]
;W[se]C[SergeyASh [12k\]: w lost r12 ?
Ophelia [-\]: Thanks to the entire USGO team for all the amazing coverage this Congress!
]
;B[rd]C[Aoiro [8k\]: they are counting already
evanj [2d\]: USGO: come on, transcribe the counting!
Anthony22 [4k\]: its alive right now
Hoyuk [12k\]: what happened???
Aoiro [8k\]: haha 
USGO1 [-\]: The players have started to count the game.
Syptryn [3d\]: blacks sente
salvor7 [2k\]: just hang on all
lolmanever [2k\]: lol no m7?
Syptryn [3d\]: lost too quick
Karcusrd [7k\]: start the game over now
Syptryn [3d\]: I didn't understand his yose
USGO1 [-\]: Black won the ko at t4...
]
;W[hc]
;B[gb]C[WoolyMaCha [5k\]: Ge said something
evanj [2d\]: looks like w wins
R [1k\]: USGO slyghtly changed sequence to keep translation
cjalden [2k\]: w will fill at j9 also
Rocker [4d\]: k1 camon
USGO1 [-\]: Just putting the stones on the board...
xedover [5k?\]: Ge got confused and thought it was Ing fillin counting
]
;W[lm]
;B[sp]C[XY0908 [-\]: ;-)
Hoyuk [12k\]: don't feel bad usgo, you did good, thanx
kenji1993 [18k\]: very well played
]
;W[ri]
;B[so]C[sayang: ure my hero
ychen666 [?\]: why didn't B E18 do T13? hat was the last chance!!!
svante [3k\]: Yes, we're greatful
Cassis0 [5d\]: w+ komi? 
evanj [2d\]: final score?
GoGetta [-\]: I heard 7.5
mcw85 [7k\]: Thanks, USGO.
fantasygo [1d\]: w win
cbc1: Thanks usgo
R [1k\]: thanks!
indo [1k\]: poor b
xinGo [10k\]: thanks
Rocker [4d\]: w+ pro ego
chute [2k\]: thanks USGO
dsaun [2d\]: Thanks USGO1
evanj [2d\]: very good fight
GoGetta [-\]: I bet they didnt count it right
Aoiro [8k\]: thanks USGO
evanj [2d\]: b has nothing to be ashamed of
lolmanever [2k\]: thank you USGO!
xedover [5k?\]: I heard 7.5 also
USGO1 [-\]: White and black are tied on the board, Myung-Wan wins by Komi.
USGO1 [-\]: W+7.5
evanj [2d\]: wow
lolmanever [2k\]: lol
starrk [10k?\]: lol
helloworld [3k\]: tartrate!
t0Strong4u [1d\]: ^^
Hoyuk [12k\]: wow
lolmanever [2k\]: wow amazing
fantasygo [1d\]: they are fighting now with stones
Hoyuk [12k\]: very good
XY0908 [-\]: They look so cute when they put the stones back to the bowls.
evanj [2d\]: cute?
WoolyMaCha [5k\]:    Good job, Ge.
])
(;W[kg]
;B[jf]
;W[if]
;B[af]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Please, don't be rude.
]
;W[lf]
;B[le]
;W[ng]
;B[mg]
;W[ls]
(;B[js]C[kythucovay [4k\]: Why B G15 when B can push K14 and L13 in sente first
])
(;B[sk]
;W[si]
;B[sl]
;W[em]
;B[en]
;W[js]C[ychen666 [?\]: Black T13 instead of E18  was black's last chance! What a pity!!!
]
;B[sj]
;W[sf]
;B[ri]
;W[rj]C[XY0908 [-\]: Thank you USGO1.
]
;B[al]
;W[am]
;B[ak]
;W[se]C[WoolyMaCha [5k\]:  Thanks  USGO1.
]
;B[rd]
;W[ho]
;B[go]
;W[hc]C[Doby [7k\]: i think Kim is helping scribe record the final moves
]
;B[gb]C[kythucovay [4k\]: B T9 is 3.5 points in sente too
XY0908 [-\]: The lunch is on me when you are in NY.
]
;W[ed]
;B[lm]C[Juggling [?\]: Thanks Kim
]
;W[ec]C[Aoiro [8k\]: yes, he has the mouse
]
;B[eb]
;W[mm]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Ahh, thanks Myung-wan Kim.
]
;B[is]
;W[km]
;B[jm]
;W[ik]
;B[sp]
;W[lm]
;B[so]
;W[ks]C[dogbert [3d\]: yeah, otherwise it was kind of weird sequence
SunnyD [2d\]: usgo, you can use copy/pasta instead of replaying all the moves
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: Kim was strong all along.
USGO1 [-\]: Myung-Wan sets the record straight for me.
mcw85 [7k\]: Haha.
XY0908 [-\]: ;-)
KoReNJe [3d\]: what a big moyo at the center
Hoyuk [12k\]: thanx kim you are good
helloworld [3k\]: surprised middle got so large
Aoiro [8k\]: he's already walked away
Aoiro [8k\]: - with a smile
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: I am proud of Ge....lose by komi only.
Hoyuk [12k\]: i am proud of both
Bad [5d\]: thank you USGO1
Hoyuk [12k\]: thanx yall
]
;B[ag]
;W[dg]
;B[nf]
;W[id]
;B[cd]
;W[ri]
;B[rk]
;W[dd]
;B[ae]C[GoGetta [-\]: Good game thx bye
]
;W[io]
;B[jd]
;W[fl]
;B[]
;W[]C[USGO1 [-\]: It's been my pleasure.
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: Are u trying to figure out the final scores?
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei began to use Ing style counting at the end - he has been in the NAIM each evening this week.
USGO1 [-\]: So he was worried that he had made a mistake in the counting.
freekevin [13k\]: hey
USGO1 [-\]: I just wanted to make sure of the score.
freekevin [13k\]: b t13 could kill white? 
Uberdude [5d?\]: only if he tenukis
squirrels [12k?\]: no because of s13
xedover [5k?\]: no, freekevin
freekevin [13k\]: s13 then b t14 ?
])))
(;B[de]
;W[bd]C[ImNoSensei [-\]: ah yes, ok
]
;B[ch]C[Rocker [4d\]: dude!
]
;W[df]
;B[ce]
;W[be]C[Koreangrl8 [3k\]: o.0
meuns [2k\]: hehe
mcw85 [7k\]: I wish KGS had an option to have game windows tabbed in the main GUI.
GoGetta [-\]: Its ok i forgive you 
USGO1 [-\]: This is the correct sequence.
Onmyoji [2d\]: so many undo
]))
